A former bomb disposal expert has been awarded more than £100,000 compensation by the Ministry of Defence because the Army failed to treat him for PRE-MENSTRUAL TENSION! The unnamed soldier, who served in Britain, the Gulf, Northern Ireland, Bosnia, Nigeria and Sierra Leone, was medically discharged in 2004 after 20 years of service but argued that he would not have had a breakdown later on had his condition been properly monitored and treated.
He shouldn't have volunteered for BOMB DISPOSAL if he couldn't control his MENSTRUAL MOOD SWINGS! Why does every fuckwit, in this country, think they can sue for FUCK ALL and some Government BAWBAG is going to settle out of court. He shouldn't have been in the Gulf, Bosnia, Nigeria and Sierra Leone in the first place. Fuck all to do with the British forces. Defend Britain and let those bastards get on with their own destruction. We should have given him some of those things with the wings. Lassies can roller skate when they are wearing them. Never mind disarm a bomb or two!
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The thing is DL these clowns are an insult to the military forces do you think people suffering from the shakes after the great war were given compensation or the people who lost their legs in World war 2 received any? I guess I was stressed a lot from my last job and perhaps it contributed to my alcoholism but what am I going to do claim compensation from Mizuho or Credit Suisse. The rule used to be in the army you take the queens salt you are prepared to fight. Dont join up if you cant handle it we dont have conscription here right now.
The MOD has a duty of care for its soldiers,if they fail in that duty they should cough up!.
Do men have PMT.... or does the MoD believe that men have PMT because they are..... erm.... useless?
Antonio, I've got to be honest that's the way I see it as well. Look at all the men and women who were conscripted to fight in the World Wars. They didn't have any choice and when they ended up as basket cases, that was just hard luck, although if you were an officer you got a couple of weeks in a sanatorium.
Stanners, if you don't like the smell of paint, don't become a painter and decorator!
Im sure you're right DL....
But my question was, why is a man getting some sort of compensation based on an affliction that only wonmen get... and is this because I'm behind the times and all this equality has landed us blokes anotehrrap in the face, and we gt PMT too... or am I missing something.
I mean, can a bloke go to the MOD and get compensation for being pregnant?
TRis, actually I was taking the piss, it was actually stress disorder. Check the link in blue and yellow. (I was actually tempted to put 'you dozy cunt', but that would have been insulting and I don't know you that well)!
Ooooops... duh.
Didn't read the link... just your story...
You're far too bright for me!
I just assumed that someone at the MoD was thick enough not to know.
Silly old me!
Post traumatic stress disorder was first really diagnosed and investigated by the Americans after they started to monitor what happened to veterans.
They found that more Vietnam veterans killed themselves after the war than were killed during it.
The same is true of other conflicts - even conflicts that we would regard as being relatively mild, like the Falklands.
It's not really comparable to PMT.
The whole compensation thing looks like a surreal lottery from where I'm stood - get a leg blown off and they'll put the snoopers out on you to see if you're deemed a good hopper - be an utter berk picking up a laser printer and complain of a "bad back" = tut, there you go - £250,000 no probs....
Lawyers are the problem here I think - and every time one of these perverse decisions come to light - the name of the lawyer and the location of their office should be mentioned.
Inders, welcome to the blog. I apologise, I have used humour or my poor attempt at humour to illustrate a point. But, tell me, because I genuinely don't know and I don't know if you do, why would someone volunteer for bomb disposal? As I said above to Stan, if you don't like the smell of paint, don't become a painter and decorator.
Gordons, welcome to the blog. The worst thing that ever happened to Britain and America, where of course it came from, is the compensation culture. Poor bastards who are in the wrong place at the wrong time get fuck all, while someone who is in the wrong place at the right time, gets set up for life. It's a perverse world!
" if you don't like the smell of paint, don't become a painter and decorator"
As in "If you don't like the smell of smoke don't work in a pub, oh no, let's ban smoking in pubs instead".
Banned, I could go with that. Only thing is that pub work tends to be poorly paid and is often a last resort for the unemployable. I used to be a smoker, but I must admit I enjoy a drink much more now that I don't smell like an ashtray and have my lungs and heart put under strain for someone else's pleasure. But that's only my personal attitude.
I don’t really understand your point in asking why he volunteered. He was medically discharged after 20 years - so he did 20 years service. Obviously he didn’t know when he volunteered that he was going to become ill. From the story it appears that he had a complete breakdown after being discharged. The case was based on the fact that the MoD did not provide any treatment while he was serving.
I’m not a psychologist so I’m not qualified to say how post-traumatic stress disorder works but from what I’ve read I think it is about soldiers repressing their emotions, which is obviously a part of their training, you couldn’t do what they do if you didn’t learn how to repress your feelings. But in the long term that is not sustainable. What happens is that the breakdown occurs usually after they have been discharged. When they get out they have all this horrible stuff locked in their heads but they can’t talk about it to their families or friends. They can only talk about it to other people who have been through it.
It’s a horrible condition. It’s not just about nightmares and so on - you know how you read in books about people getting flashbacks and re-living things over and over again. That actually happens. I read about one guy who had a complete breakdown and thought he was back in Northern Ireland, he was semi-aware of what was happening and he grabbed his wife and locked her in a cupboard to protect her. Later on he thought he had killed her and when the police arrived he was begging them to shoot him because he really thought he had killed his wife.
The thing is that this condition is completely treatable. The MoD needs to take it a lot more seriously and start monitoring people to see if they are showing symptoms. I think they are starting to do that but not on a systematic scale. There shouldn’t need to be court cases to make them do that.
People seem to think it is a new thing but it’s not. It’s just a new name for it. Remember when Emperor Hirohito died and there was all the fuss about people going to his funeral because it was seen as disrespectful to the victims of the Japanese prisoner of war camps? Remember the survivors who were interviewed and said they still woke up screaming, they were still absolutely haunted by what had happened to them and what they had seen, even though it was forty-odd years ago? That’s post traumatic stress disorder.
I don’t really understand your point in asking why he volunteered. He was medically discharged after 20 years - so he did 20 years service. Obviously he didn’t know when he volunteered that he was going to become ill. From the story it appears that he had a complete breakdown after being discharged. The case was based on the fact that the MoD did not provide any treatment while he was serving.
I’m not a psychologist so I’m not qualified to say how post-traumatic stress disorder works but from what I’ve read I think it is about soldiers repressing their emotions, which is obviously a part of their training, you couldn’t do what they do if you didn’t learn how to repress your feelings. But in the long term that is not sustainable. What happens is that the breakdown occurs usually after they have been discharged. When they get out they have all this horrible stuff locked in their heads but they can’t talk about it to their families or friends. They can only talk about it to other people who have been through it.
It’s a horrible condition. It’s not just about nightmares and so on - you know how you read in books about people getting flashbacks and re-living things over and over again. That actually happens. I read about one guy who had a complete breakdown and thought he was back in Northern Ireland, he was semi-aware of what was happening and he grabbed his wife and locked her in a cupboard to protect her. Later on he thought he had killed her and when the police arrived he was begging them to shoot him because he really thought he had killed his wife.
The thing is that this condition is completely treatable. The MoD needs to take it a lot more seriously and start monitoring people to see if they are showing symptoms. I think they are starting to do that but not on a systematic scale. There shouldn’t need to be court cases to make them do that.
People seem to think it is a new thing but it’s not. It’s just a new name for it. Remember when Emperor Hirohito died and there was all the fuss about people going to his funeral because it was seen as disrespectful to the victims of the Japanese prisoner of war camps? Remember the survivors who were interviewed and said they still woke up screaming, they were still absolutely haunted by what had happened to them and what they had seen, even though it was forty-odd years ago? That’s post traumatic stress disorder.
Indy, thanks for your comments. I take on board what you say and to be fair I treated it in a flippant way which it obviously isn't. I think, what I was getting at, was really the whole compensation culture. It's no excuse, but we had been told my wife's father has pancreatic cancer, that day, so maybe I was trying to raise my spirits by treating a serious story with supposed humour. BTW, your comment was excellent, but it wasn't that good that you had to post the fucking thing twice! :-)
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