Sunday, 3 April 2011



The picture above purports to be of pro-Qaddafi forces' vehicles being hit by NATO forces fire.  Two things are important about this photo:

  1. It's the same one, differently framed as the 'Maley Dail' used last week and
  2. It shows you what a ragtag army the Libyan State Army is.
Whether you agree or not that Qaddafi is a 'BLOOD CRAZED' dictator or not, (if he was blood crazed why was Blair meeting him), what is indisputable, is that, Libya is one of the more progressive Arab Nations, where women are educated and have rights that women in other Arab states, notably Saudi Arabia, would die for, if you take my meaning.  The West has used the last three decades bringing the Qaddafi regime, 'in from the cold'.  But, the West when operating in this region has to play to the interests of The House of Saud and the Israelis, whose interests coincide in many cases as they both want to see stable Governments and if that means, blood crazed dictators so be it.  The Arab League's permission for the NO FLY ZONE was only brokered after the Saudis were allowed to nip next door to put down a rebellion which threatened their own security.

This is not a GULF WAR scenario.  The Rebel forces consist of about 1500 men who drive up and down the coast road in an assortment of pick up vans and ONE TANK which they have 'liberated' from somewhere.  It says a lot about the capabilities of the State Forces that they haven't been able to put them out of commission and it's probably only the NATO strikes that stops that.  Who are these rebel forces anyway?  We're told by the MSM, that they're infested with Al Qeada sympathisers.  

Maybe we're better off with Qaddafi, a reasonably benign dictator, by the standards of the region,  who's oil we can exploit.  But, I suppose it's too late for that now.  Anyone want to have bets, when the first coalition ground forces will be used?


Anonymous said...

As I've said from the beginning, if we are in there because as our esteemed, or steamed pm says that "we cannot allow dictators to slaughter their own people” (even if we sell them weapons to slaughter other countries' people), why aren’t we in a pile of other places where they do just that?

Yes, I’m fed up with it too

Anonymous said...

It's just business.
Bombs make money.

cynicalHighlander said...

Exposed: The US-Saudi Libya deal

You invade Bahrain. We take out Muammar Gaddafi in Libya. This, in short, is the essence of a deal struck between the Barack Obama administration and the House of Saud. Two diplomatic sources at the United Nations independently confirmed that Washington, via Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, gave the go-ahead for Saudi Arabia to invade Bahrain and crush the pro-democracy movement in their neighbor in exchange for a "yes"

Dark Lochnagar said...

Tris, why then are we slaughtering millions of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan? The whole thing is pish. When are we going to stand up for ourselves?

Dark Lochnagar said...

Anonymous, sadly that is very true. What a sad world we live in when our people are being slaughtered for the monetary gain of some fucker. Just wait until they can be kept alive beyond the usual 70, by medical inventions that will cost the earth, (literally) and won't be available to the common man. Then you'll really see greed. I'm just glad that I will be worm food by that time.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Teuchter, I saw that and how true is it. Have a shufty at the update I have added, it's a bit long but tells you all you want to know about saving innocent civilians!

The Young Oligarch said...

We've started , so we have to finish .

Simple as that .

I'm with you , though , DL - wouldn't give the steam aff my p*sh to any raghead . Unless they make good pakora .

Dark Lochnagar said...

Oli, have you got steamy pash! How strange, it must be your time of life. (What the fuck is a pash)?

banned said...

I don't see any problem with bombing Libya for humanitarian reasons and taking out Gaddafis military structures to keep their oil safe for democracy.

From your link re Iraq "The intervention in Iraq resulted in well over a million civilian deaths, four million refugees and the systematic destruction of a complex society and its infrastructure, including its water supplies and sewage treatment, irrigation, electricity grid, factories, not to mention research centers, schools, historical archives, museums and Iraq’s extensive social welfare system."

But we did not do that, they did that to themselves so grateful were they to be rid of Saddam.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Banned, as far as I understand it most of the oil is in the East which is round about where the rebels are. No one, to my knowledge knows what their politics are. Will they take the help of the west and then tell us to fuck off and sell their oil to the expanding Chinese market?

Regardless of whether we or they destroyed their infrastructure in Iraq, it has been destroyed and it is as a direct result of us going in there. Were they all glad to be rid of Saddam? I don't think so and there is also a lot of nostalgia for the Saddam days from what I read.