Conservative leader and UK PM David Cameron has again attacked the decision to release Abdelbasset Al Megrahi on compassionate grounds claiming that such a release was “wrong” and that it musn't happen again.
Speaking at the Conservative party conference in Birmingham Mr Cameron repeated attacks he originally made when visiting the US and added that the release had “undermined our [UK] standing in the world”.
The release of Al Megrahi, who is suffering from terminal cancer, just over a year ago was greeted with anger by many US relatives of the Lockerbie victims and senior US politicians. It also saw Scottish Labour, Tory and Lib Dem politicians attack the Scottish government although many respected international figures, including Nelson Mandela and the son of Mahatma Ghandi, backed the Scottish government and welcomed the showing of compassion to Mr Megrahi.
However Mr Cameron went further by appearing to issue a veiled threat against the independence of Scots Law when he said that “nothing like that must ever happen again”. - Newsnet Scotland
Mr Cameron, whose family line was that of a whore of William IV, should be told by the Scottish members of his Cabinet, Fox, Gove, Alexander, Moore, Duncan Smith, Lord Strathclyde and indeed by his own Scottish father, well if hadn't have died recently, that Scottish law is different to English law and has been since before the Union of the Parliaments, which indeed enshrined Scottish law and of course before Devolution. It is not for him a British Prime Minister to interfere in the law of Scotland and to that end the Lord Advocate should bring him before the Scottish High Court to rebuke him. At the very least there should be a letter of protest sent from the Scottish Parliament, signed by all parties, (and I'm laughing as I write that), protesting in his interference in Scottish Law. If you haven't read Newsnet Scotland please do so as there is an interesting article on the validity of Megrahi's guilt. The wine section however, is written by some pretentious prick, who lives in France.
23 comments:
DL,
As much as I loathe Cameron, he's right.
Megrahi most likely DOESN'T have cancer.
If Megrahi was found guilty by a jury of 12 of his peers then guilty he is until retried by a group of 12 of his peers to be found innocent.
He was released because Mandelson was living it up with Gadaffi's son while accompanying Blair to make more billions for some of their controllers in the Oil business and be respectfully awarded so.
Megrahi should never have been released on compassionate grounds. Compassionate release sullies the deaths of those people who prisoners released under it have murdered.
I do agree that it's nothing to do with Cameron, but then it obviously had a hell of a lot to do with Blair & Mandelson didn't it?
Harbingers, Megrahi should have stood up to a retrial. There is no doubt in my mind, that he was innocent. There is a good article by Dr Jim Swires, who was at the trial and whose daughter died, stating that there is also no doubt in his mind to his innocence. As usual, oil is to do with it. I can't believe that Cameron wasn't get onside regarding the talks with Libya. There is also no doubt in my mind, that the Scottish Government released him for the right reasons and I just with the cunt would die before May.
I think he was innocent. I don't think he has cancer. I think he should have had a retrial but, then too many heads would have rolled so compassionate release and the invention of cancer was used to get him out of the UK ASAP. How much do you reckon he'll beat this cancer miraculously?
Cameron knows all about it. He's merely lying, but playing the concerned patriot to attract all those who have left to support the BNP, UKIP, the Libertarians et all. He's also playing up for the Americans, many angry at the release in order to turn himself into another caring Tony Blair and create affection amongst the American public. Before you know it he'll be in front of the senate saying how wonderful the relationship is, how Scotland was wrong blah blah and how great the USA is blah blah.
Honestly, it's all so predictable it's unbelievable but people really believe the lies that spew forth from Cameron.
P.S. Cameron's merely following a script DL. From the Protocols of Zion:
We might have reason to apprehend a union between the “clear-sighted” force of the GOY kings on their thrones and the “blind” force of the GOY mobs, but we have taken all the needful measure against any such possibility: between the one and the other force we have erected a bulwark in the shape of a mutual terror between them. In this way the blind force of the people remains our support and we, and we only, shall provide them with a leader and, of course, direct them along the road that leads to our goal.
This is reality. Supposedly he's got a £30m fortune, but it's kept quiet. Cromwell changed society from rule of Royalty to rule by Politician, that is making people think politicians are one of you, when they're not, nor ever will be and will never act in your best interests - WW1 & 2 were two classic examples of that and pretty much everything that went on before.
If Cameron is the descendant of the Kings whore then surely he should be Fitzcameron or don't they do that in Scotland?
Agreed, Megrahi was a convenient patsy for both Libya and the British police; released so that the Labour junta could cozy up to Gadaffi for Libyas oil and rent- boys.
Agreed Cameron was spouting off to please the 'right-wing' on a subject that would not actually require him to do anything in practise. Cheap crowd pleaser thet seems to have backfired, at least in Scotland.
banned,
Fitz is Irish not Scottish (although the Scots do come from Ireland lol)
The Cameron Clan is one of Scotland's oldest clans and much respected, being known as fiercer than fierceness itself, although no doubt many Cameron's loathe the fact that DC is linked to their clan.
I agree with what Cameron is saying but it is still none of his business. You can't devolve authority to Scotland and then tell them what to do, but in fairness you can tell them you think they made the wrong decision.
Then again, if Scotland was conned, would Westminster have done any better?
Harbingers, I did and probably still do believe he had cancer, but you are beginning to put doubts in my mind. Cameron as you say is spouting for the party faithful, but the Scots in his parliament should tell him to shut the fuck up. There is no doubt in my mind he is innocent, but a retrial would have shown that and also just how much involvement there had been from the CIA. One of the theories is that the plane was actually carrying munitions and it was this that caused the explosion. We still have to be told why so many high ranking Americans were pulled off the plane. We still have to be told about the Syrians working on behalf of the Iranians over the downing of one of their planes 6 months earlier, etc, etc.
Had Megrahi died in a Scottish Jail whether he had cancer or not there would have been many young people driven to the cause of the Jihadists and there would have been many more terror attacks, probably here and abroad by kids who can't see they are being used as pawns and wasting their lives for nothing.
The Cameron Clan must be spewing that Cameron's grandfather made his fortune in grain and returned to the highlands to build his estate.
Banned, Cameron's ancestors were from one of TEN illegitimate children the actress, Dorethea Jordan had with the future William IV. Others who are of her line include:
Her Royal Highness Princess Alexandra, Duchess of Fife, also a granddaughter of Edward VII
Her Highness Princess Maud, Countess of Southesk, also a granddaughter of Edward VII
Violet Jacob Scottish writer (1863 - 1946)
Brigadier General Charles FitzClarence, recipient of the Victoria Cross (8 May 1865 - 2 November 1914)
Sir Edward Bellingham, 5th Bt. Brig.-Gen., Senator of the Irish Free State (26 January 1879-19 May 1956)
Duff Cooper,1st Viscount Norwich British diplomat, Cabinet member and author (22 February 1890 - 1 January 1954)
Sir Rupert Hart-Davis British publisher, literary editor, and man of letters (28 August 1907 - 8 December 1999)
William Sidney, 1st Viscount De L'Isle 15th Governor-General of Australia, the last British Governor-General (23 May 1909 - 5 April 1991)
Fra Andrew Bertie (1929-2008) Prince and Grand Master of the Knights Hospitaller.
Adam Hart-Davis British author, photographer, and broadcaster (born 4 July 1943)
Merlin Hay, 24th Earl of Erroll, a cross-bench member of the House of Lords (born 20 April 1948)
John Crichton-Stuart, 7th Marquess of Bute (b.1958), aka Johnny Dumfries, former racing driver.
David Cameron (b.1966), Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and Leader of the Conservative Party.
Her spawn took the name FitzClarence from the title of the Duke of Clarence which William IV had before he became king.
I only showed this shite to illustrate the fact that the Royal Family and there ancestors are indeed still in charge of us, no matter how much democratic freedom we stupid fuckers think we have.
And Megrahi is innocent IMHO.
Harbers says..
" Megrahi most likely DOESN'T have cancer."
Yeah ok
" If Megrahi was found guilty by a jury of 12 of his peers then guilty he is until retried by a group of 12 of his peers to be found innocent."
He was found guilty by 3 judges with no jury present.
" He was released because Mandelson was living it up with Gadaffi's son"
No it was because the Scottish Justice Minister wanted him out of the way
" Compassionate release sullies the deaths of those people who prisoners released under it have murdered."
Translation please ?
" How much do you reckon he'll beat this cancer miraculously?"
Not much.
" the Protocols of Zion:"
It's a fake. Why do you believe in this ?
" Cromwell changed society from rule of Royalty to rule by Politician"
Didn't Royalty chop his head off ?
harbers cont ..
" The Cameron Clan is one of Scotland's oldest clans and much respected,"
No more than other clans. It killed thousands of fellow Scots in pointless battles over territory. 15 major battles ( mainly against the mcIntosh clan) where they killed thousands of fellow citizens.
But they're no better or no worse than the other clans who carried out pointless butchery.
I often see a repeat of history when I look at afghanistan. Different sects of the basically same ideology butchering each other for territory and influence.
Mr. Cameron was entirely correct to voice his opinion on this matter . As Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland it is very much his business , although the decision was not his to make .
That clown fae Kirkcaldy should have shown a bit more interest at the time and , hopefully , influenced Holy Willie MacAskill from making such a morally impaired decision and , in the process , making Scotland a laughing stock throughout the globe .
Of all the things that the SNP has got wrong this is the worst by far . Leftist posturing cnuts !
Jim, may I comment on some of your observations?
I think Megrahi has got cancer but Scottish Justice was done no favours by not having a Jury trial in what was obviously a stitch up in the Hague.
If he is indeed suffering from cancer, compassionate release makes a great deal of sense. There will be no comeback by the Jihadists and further possible recruiting because of Megrahi. The West's oil supplies will be more secure by normalising ties, both diplomatic and by business, with Libya.
I am not well aware enough of the protocols of Zion to comment, which is unlike me, but I am of the opinion that Zionists in general have far too much control over the media, the World banking system and the Governments of the West in particular the US.
Without looking it up, did Cromwell not die in his bed to be succeeded unsuccessfully by his son. If I am wrong, I apologise but I was being taught the history of Scotland at this point with particular relevance to Scottish Economic history.
Yes, you are correct in saying that the Cameron (cunts) did indeed have many battles with the Mackintosh clan of which my own particular clan, Clan Chattan were affiliated. I am pleased to say we kicked the shite out of them and still survived to lead the Highland charge at Culloden.
Oli, I strongly disagree. The Law in Scotland is not for him to question particularly when he is firth of these islands. Scotland may have been criticised by some bobtail American politicians who are facing mid-term elections in November, but their decision has been admired by prominent people all over the world. Also the reasons I explored above are relevant. You are looking at it from a particular Unionist point of view with your eyes clouded by a 'land of hope and glory' attitude, IMO.
DL do you reckon he's just talking bollox as usual. Change, big society, red skys at night, change, leadership, bollox, bollox...bollox.
Ignore the bitchboy.
BTW. BP. Libya, GoM.....Iran?
Now then who's telling him to keep us distracted? Oil everywhere and no money in the West to buy any soon.
Look at it. Centuries of struggle and still there's a rich bastard in power talking shit.
Oh DL brush up on your French. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-07/paris-oil-drillers-seek-100-billion-barrels-next-to-brie-farms-vineyards.html
DL,
Them Camerons sound like a fearsome tribe,how come they`ve degenerated to that oily,fork tongued,chinless wonder i(cast iron)Dave?
They dug auld Ollie up, cut his heid aff and stuck it oan a pike.
I dinnae think he was that much bothered aboot it.
Conan
Aye he wis - he loast the heid!
Hehe.
He lost his round heid too...
Conaners, no, as he had been worm food for a while, no I don't suppose he did.
Billy, I feel that our English cousins may lose that last comment!
Don't agree DL.
He's allowed an opinion just like you and me.
Like just about everybody else on the planet, I don't *know* whether mad Reg or whatever his name is is guilty or innocent - yes many have suspicions but the fact is we don't know.
Cameron is giving his opinion, I agree with him and that is about it - I could understand your anger if he overruled what the Scots Govt. have done but he hasn't.
Your not suggesting suppressing opinion are you as that is all he has done, express an opinion?
Headson, there is nothing wrong with him having an opinion and saying that in his opinion it was wrong to release Megrahi. The problem comes when he 1.Says it in America, which is discussing internal politics and worse the law of a separate part of the UK, i.e. a part, that has devolved Government and who has always had separate laws, which has always had a separate legal system as enshrined in the Act of the Union, 1707. You would not expect Hilary Clinton to come across here and criticise Arizona's immigration policy.
2. It was what he added after saying that it was wrong i.e. "that it must not be allowed to happen again" as if he has any say in the matter and wouldn't have had, even if devolution had not taken place. We however elect our Government to carry out the laws of our country and this is what happened in this case. That's why it's got fuck all to do with him!
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