Tuesday, 10 August 2010

DOES SCOTLAND WANT FURTHER MUSLIM INTEGRATION?


It's funny, sometimes themes for blogposts just seem to come up in batches, I seem to be in a Paki/Muslim bashing mode over the last few days, but here I go again!


I came across a BBC Scotland article, HERE, on Muslim integration or not in Scotland and the salient facts are thus:

  • Integration is easier for Muslims in Scotland than in England.
  • Six out of 10 Scots believed Muslims were integrated into everyday Scottish life.
  • Scots have a less favourable opinion of Muslims than other religious groups.
  •  One of the barriers to adapting to Scottish life was the country's drinking culture.
  • As most social events in Scotland were seen to revolve around drinking alcohol, many Muslims felt they could not often fully integrate.
  • Two-thirds (65%) of respondents had a favourable opinion towards Muslims. - three times as many as those with an unfavourable opinion (21%).
  • However, Muslims were viewed less favourably than any of the other religious groups asked about.
  • The survey,  also found that 46% of those questioned think that Muslims living in Scotland were loyal to the country while 33% thought they were not.
  • A total of 66% of Scots thought the attempted bombing of Glasgow Airport in July 2007 had made people in Scotland less tolerant of Muslims, while 48% thought Scotland would begin to lose its identity if more Muslims came to live there.
  • There was a strong feeling among Muslims that integration in Scotland was largely one-way - with Muslims making the effort to adapt to Scottish life.
  • However, among non-Muslim Scots, the dominant view was that that Muslims have to make more of an effort to interact and should completely adopt Scottish customs.
  • Factors such as speaking in their own language and wearing traditional dress - particularly the veil - were seen as evidence that they were not integrating.
What do I think?  Well without wanting to sound like a BNP rant.  I love my country.  I also love my heritage and the history of my country.  That does not include a sizable non-white, non-Scottish, non-Christian/Jewish, (and I'm not too keen on Zionists), coterie, who seem to be increasing day by day.  This is a white country and I fucked if I am going to apologize for it.  I am fed up being proud of my white heritage and being told I am a racist.  If I am, so be it.  My country's most famous King's heart, was thrown into the Moorish hordes by the Black Douglas and that eventuality is emblazoned on my heart also.  I don't have a problem, well not too much, with MULTI RACIALISM but if people of other faiths and customs want to come here, then they must adopt the CULTURE of the host country.  Why should Scots integrate to a IMMIGRANT'S CULTURE?  If they are unable to do that, then they should choose a country where they  can.  I don't want this country to become like parts of England like Blackburn and some parts of London where it is 'spot the white man time'.  I say Scotland for Scots, Pakistan for Pakistanis, (nearly tempted there) and India for Indians.  BTW, before anyone calls me a white supremist, I don't want Aussies, Kiwis or White South Africans, either.  It's our shite weather, why should you enjoy it if your own countries are too hot for you!

42 comments:

Harbinger said...

Miaow....

Boy, did you let off steam there?
And who ever heard of a Scottish Nationalist government happy to allow unfettered Islamic immigration which will inevitably change our culture? Getting the bigger picture here DL? Beginning to realise that politicians are merely a smash & grab, take as much as they can in their time in office, nothing but NWO shills, working for the man?

Another plug, but I think you'll like my latest article. It's a long one, but it sums up, what I think are many people's views of the multiculturalisation of the UK.

Well said. One should most certainly not be shouted down as racist for loving their own country, culture and people. If that is the case then every black man is nothing but a Black Panther, a follower of Stokely Carmichael and advocate of Black supremacy!

Harbinger said...

Miaow....

Boy, did you let off steam there?
And who ever heard of a Scottish Nationalist government happy to allow unfettered Islamic immigration which will inevitably change our culture? Getting the bigger picture here DL? Beginning to realise that politicians are merely a smash & grab, take as much as they can in their time in office, nothing but NWO shills, working for the man?

Another plug, but I think you'll like my latest article. It's a long one, but it sums up, what I think are many people's views of the multiculturalisation of the UK.

Well said. One should most certainly not be shouted down as racist for loving their own country, culture and people. If that is the case then every black man is nothing but a Black Panther, a follower of Stokely Carmichael and advocate of Black supremacy!

scunnert said...

I suspect these kinds of surveys underestimate the resistance, if not outright hostility, to Muslim colonization. Folks are just too nice (or afraid) to report their real feelings. My view is that Islam is a reprehensible ideology that should be banned.

Nicolalala in La La Land said...

You live in a beautiful country with a tremendously rich heritage so feel free to be proud and sod 'em.
I'm sick and tired of being expected to hang my head in shame because I'm white and English.
So I don't.
What's more I encourage my kids to be proud of their heritage too. And not the cobbled together socially engineered version that we are all expected to embrace nowadays.
As good friend of mine succinctly put it yesterday, living in Leicester was like being a spot on a domino.

Dioclese said...

My father's side of the family come from Leicester. Don't think of going there without taking your passport.
My views on this are widely known through my blog. My attitude is simple. You came to our country, so adopt our way of life.Don't expect us to adopt yours. It's free country and if you don't like the way we do things, then feel free to exercise your democratic right to fuck off and live somewhere else.
Preferably France - they export enough immigrants over here, it's time we repaid the favour.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Scunnert. I think we apologise too much for being white. We had this thing bred into us by Liberals that the white man has exploited and enslaved the black man. The fucking black man exploits and enslaves the black man. How much money do you think, Idi Amin, Mugabe, Kenyata have in their swiss bank accounts. The Pakistan President's wealth outdoes the Queen. There is a link further down on another thread and it is absolutely amazing how much property he owns in prime places all over the world. He's known in Pakistan as 'Mr 5%', because you don't do a deal without him getting his 5%. Speaking about Pakistan, there is so much rain here just as I type this at 9.20 am that they may need to float me out!

Dark Lochnagar said...

Nocolalalalala,And neither should you hang your head in shame. Your kids should be proud of your heritage. You live in the second best country in the world and you should be proud of what it has achieved over the years. The BNP are the only party who are warning of this and they are going to get more and more votes until the mainstream parties take it on.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Greekers, I thought your family came from Greece. Auch well there you go! No though your right they are taking over more and more and they breed like rabbits. Fuck me, I sound like a Nazi, but I would bet that there birth rate is higher than our. Unfortunately they look after their kids better than we do with lassies popping them out to different fathers left, right and centre. Ar least they tend to have better family ties and disipline than we whites do.

back to the middle ages said...

The Pakistan President is known as Mr 10%. Not Mr 5%
Multiculturalism has failed. It should have been multiracialism but with one culture.
We seem to be going backwards in the UK with witchcraft, honour killings, acid attacks, poligamy, scam weddings, forced marriages, voodoo, veils, ritual halal killings of animals, birth rates back up to 8 per woman, innercity tensions between races, poor educational standards etc.
We advanced rapidly during the enlightenment and the 19th and 20th centuries but our culture is reverting to the middle ages.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Middlers, yes we can have a multi racial country but with one culture and if anyone doesn't like it, they can fuck off. I include in that Poles, Latvians or any other bastard that doesn't want to integrate and be Scottish. And while I'm on a rant can I just say that all these Second and third generation Irish are included. I've got a good mate who's been a season ticket holder at Celtic Park since he was a boy. He was born here but he's never been to support Scotland at Hampden or anywhere else. If you can't support your native country against the country your father was born in you shouldn't be here. He also is quite high in the Labour party. When you say to him, what about Scottish independence, you want it for Ireland, then you get all this pish about women being raped by the British etc. If Ireland's that good, fuck off back to it. Don't think you Rangers Unionists who run around in England shirts are getting away with it either. You would support England against Scotland, so fuck off there and stop draining our economy. I respect England and I like the English, but I would rather rip my skin off than wear an England shirt or any other nationality for that matter. So Scotland for the Scots and those who want to integrate fully, you don't have to drink or go to a Christian church but we expect you to be able to speak English. How fucking annoying is that sign in the Hospital or the Doctors that tells you they can get interpeters in 120 different languages, WTF is that all about. If you can't speak English to a small degree, at least enough to tell a Doctor what the problem is, you SHOULDN'T BE HERE!

INCOMING!!!!!!! said...

DL like every other -ism concocted to bamboozle the masses the ordinary punter will just ignore it as best they can and get on with daily life. There are no religions in this world DL, just flavours of killing others on an excuse. The trick that the boys in the Big Room have to pull off is not to let the whole herd know. A few seeing through the smoke and mirrors can just about be tolerated so long as they don't draw attention.

So DL now that you've started off down this dangerous path of a political career you'd better check your six constantly. Oh BTW you mustn't forget your ecclesiastical duties. I believe you've chosen a Scottish Bishopric, the one in Hawaii being a tad too sunny!! Once you've got the Bishop's Palace built I'll send you the turnip.:-)

INCOMING!!!!!!! said...

BTW @ scunnert what is going on at your shop?

Rt Hon Gordon Brown PM said...

I will be making a statement to the House at 16.00pm on bigotry.

It will also be covered in my next tome "Courage 2. How I saved the world from bankruptcy and bigotry"
To be exclusively serialised on Mr Dark's Blog.

Nicolalala in La La Land said...

Dioclese, truly there should be no reason to go to Leicester at all let alone without a passport. It's nowt more than a bloody multi-cultural dumping ground which in my humble opinion had turned it into a shit-hole. ONE THIRD of the households in Leiceser are claiming benefits. It's my city, I was born there, generations of my family were born there and yet I can go into the city centre and struggle to hear one sodding word of English spoken.
You're so right in what you say. The frustration is that nobody with the power to do anything about the anger and disillusionment that many feel when it comes to the destruction of communities seem to agree.
DL, in May for for first time ever, I voted BNP. That says a lot about how pissed off I am.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that someone who proclaims to be Scottish and proud of it, is not aware of the saying that we're all Jock Tamson's bairns! Or aware of Rabbie's A Man's a Man for a' that. Irrespective of the different colours of our skins, we are all the same underneath. And I can guarantee that if you trace your roots that you'll find that some of your family originated originally from outside this great land. So, will you be buggering back off to Ireland, Norway or Denmark?

John Dickson said...

Society affords each of us the right to worship who we want, wear what we want and (with the odd exception like hash) to eat and drink what we want, so with the exception of a couple of common sense things (like making sure your work canteen has a vegetarian/halal option) I don't really see what efforts society is supposed to make.

Most employers are happy enough to grant Muslims their own holidays off, with the understanding that they will not want time off for Christmas or Easter etc

What I do object to however is where Muslims expect the rights of others to be curtailed for their benefit. For example I was recently at a meeting and towards the end we were discussing the location of our next meeting, it was suggested that we book the function room of a local pub, and one man objected saying that he didn't want to be seen entering a place that served alcohol because he is a Muslim. I said that if he didn't want to drink he didn't have to but his beliefs shouldn't stop others from acting as they see fit, but I was alone in this and a precedent has been set that we cannot meet in any venue with an alcohol licence.

Father MacKenzie said...

How fucking annoying is that sign in the Hospital or the Doctors that tells you they can get interpeters in 120 different languages, WTF is that all about. If you can't speak English to a small degree, at least enough to tell a Doctor what the problem is, you SHOULDN'T BE HERE!

They have translators because people aren't always at their best in hospitals.

My father collapsed in March and was on a respirator for three days, once the anaesthetic from the operation wore off and he regained consciousness he was still a bit groggy from the drugs and spent the first day asking for things in Serbian.

Other than that, I'm sure he would agree with almost every word of your post

close shave said...

Father..

" spent the first day asking for things in Serbian."

Fuck sake good job he didn't wake up in a hospital in Srebenicia !

I am Stan said...

I was watching Scots at War on SKY the other night,quite a few black faces in the Scottish regiments fighting in Afghanistan..

just sayin!

Dark Lochnagar said...

INCOMING!!!!! If I suddenly expire under suspicious circumstances, I want you, as one of my oldest readers, sorry, longest readers, sorry, somebody who's been coming onto my blog for a while. Oh fuck, you know what I mean. Anyway, I expect you to be Chairman of the enqiry on the net into my demise. I think I can trust your strange and enquiring mind to ask the right questions and keep the fuckers on their toes.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Gordon, You may wish to serialise your memoirs on my blog, but as yet we haven't discussed how much you are going to pay me. Now that I've started a political career, I expect to be paid the going rate for the job, in cash, in a brown envelope for preference.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Nicollalalalala! This is what the mainstream parties don't understand. This is the biggest issue for people in places like Leicester and Blackburn. I don't want people voting BNP, but I don't want the same thing happening hee. It's ok to say that Scotland has always had immigrants, but we are in a different world now. Economic migration is more pronounced than it ever was before. Just to repeat, because I have had some lying Labour bitch misquoting me all day on Twitter, I have no truck with the BNP, but I'm also not going to aplogise for being white and European!

Dark Lochnagar said...

Anonymous, doesn't anyone ever read things before jumping in with both feet? I have no problem with multi racialism, but I do with multi culturism. What would happen if the population of Aberdeen migrated to Islamabad, set up Christian Churches and Schools, wore kilts and only ate haggis. Do you think the Pakistanis would put up with it for one minute, or the Indians, or the Saudis, or the Iranaians or the Zimbabweans? I don't fucking think so. Make up a name the next time.

Dark Lochnagar said...

John, Welcome to the blog.I have no disgreement with what you say in the first part of the comment except maybe with the halal. As far as I am lead to believe although I am not an expert on the matter, the animal suffers to an unacceptable degree during the kill. I don't think the Chinese, Pakistanis, Indians, Zimbabweans would lay on steak pie and chips in their country.

The second part is exactly the point I am making. They expect us to adhere to their culture. How mny years have your group been meeting in a pub, but we are so conditioned in to not being racist and PC that we agree to unreasonable demands?

Dark Lochnagar said...

Faither, aye but he could point and I bet if he didn't get what he wanted he would have remembered English, or one of your family would have been able to interpert. What does it cost to have interpertors sitting on their arse doing nothing waiting on a call which may not come. How long has your dad been living here? I don't know if he came here during he troubles in the Balkans, but if he did, he is exactly the kind of immigrant that should be allowed entry regardless, of the colour of their skin.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Shavers, yes but the man was confused as the elderly often can be. Fuck me, sometimes I start talking in toungues!

Dark Lochnagar said...

Stan welcome to the blog. I'm not sure if you've been on before, I get easily confused at my age with Twatter.

That is exactly the point I was making. These 'black faces' in the film, I don't know if they were born here, but if they weren't, they have integrated into Scottish society and culture by joining the army. Not that you have to do that of course!

Billy said...

Funny! Showaddywaddy came from Leicester and only one of them was black - the other seven were white.

Must have been different back in the early seventies.

Anonymous said...

Actually, ex Scots have set up mini-Scotlands where they have gone. Notia Scotia, Corby, Perth (Australia) etc etc. and I prefer to remain anonymous given that you're site is fascist and racist.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Billy, It must have been. Fond memories, eh! It's places like Leicester that these PC twats think they, in their liberal ways are cleansing of the white man and introducing immigrants who only are interested in the whole, of mixing with other immigrants. It doesn't matter when you talk to the 'common people', ie not left wing uni graduates in subjects no one wants to employ them in, who have no idea what anger there is in the streets as peoples' communities are taken away and their only recourse is to shout racist. Fuck me!

Dark Lochnagar said...

Anonymous, it is neither racist or fascist. It is very easy to hide behind an identity of anonymous. FFS have the courage of your convictions. You'll remember these comments you have made one day and you'll be sorry. But you still have the chance to open your eyes to what is happening in the world, immigration included. But you won't!

Father MacKenzie said...

Close shave

good job he didn't wake up in a hospital in Srebenicia !

They speak Serbian in Srebrenica, as they do across all of what was Yugoslavia (with Slovenia and Macedonia also having their own regional languages)

DL

My father has lived in Scotland for 28 years, marrying my mother and having me about 5 years before Yugoslavia began to disintegrate.

Being keen on integrating into his adopted society, and as visits to see my grandparents were off the cards for most of my childhood due to the troubles/sanctions I haven't been taught a lot of Serbian, only English was spoken in the house when I grew up. I've learned what I know from visiting as a teenager and meeting other Yugoslavs who live around Glasgow.

I would know if he wanted a glass of water or another pillow etc, but I'd be hard pushed to explain a medical procedure, not to mention the fact I was only allowed in to see him two hours a day.

It certainly isn't something people should be using all the time, for example, if you've lived here long enough to register with a GP or open a bank account then you shouldn't be asking the GP or bank to be providing a translator, but services like Casualty, Intensive Care and the police that do deal with people who aren't compus mentis or tourists etc.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Faither, That's a moot point. I'm interested in the fact that you feel obligated to meet other Yugoslavians in Glasgow. Presumably your mum is Scottish as you are, so why would you want to do that?

scunnert said...

Thanks for having the courage to open up this debate DL. It's long past due!

Dark Lochnagar said...

Scunner, it's been interesting, on here and also on Facebook and Twatter. One thing that I have found, (to my disgust), is that immediately you get the label of a racist and a BNP sympathiser, which I am not IMO. People try and put words in your mouth, "you said this, you said that", which is absolute pish. I know what I wrote and if people are incapable of reading it and arguing that's not my problem. I had a particular such argument, with some, as it turned out Anarchist Yank, on Twatter, who was accusing me, in print, of making racist comments, in the post. I should sue the fuckers.

banned said...

I'm eagerly awaiting calls to close down school dining rooms for Ramadam in case Moslem pupils feel 'offended' by seeing their white Scots/English classmates eating lunch.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Banned, the surgeon who did my stomach op at Ayr hospital, doesn't do operations during Ramadan, because he can't concentrate if he's hungry. I think that's a fucking disgrace. I hope he's not drawing his salary.

banned said...

Perhaps they should not be driving then either? It is a criminal offence to drive when overtired (driving without due care and attention) so why not when unconcentrating through fasting?

Dark Lochnagar said...

Banned, good point, but I believe the fucker's away on holiday. Probably in Florida, eating like fuck!

Anonymous said...

Hi,muslims do NOT fast.They eat and drink as soon as the sun goes down.I lived with them ,so anyone who says they are hungry is telling porkies.They may well be tired,but so what.Love your blog by the way,Regs,AndyM

Dark Lochnagar said...

Anonymous, thanks for that, I knew that but maybe Banned didn't. What he actually said was that he didn't feel he could concentrate. Now as he does all his operations first thing in the morning, I wouldn't have thought that would be a problem. As it turns out my 84 YO F-I-L is in and needs operated on in the area of medicine he specialises in, so if he doesn't feel confident about doing the operation, that's fine by me, but should he be getting paid? Make up an identity and log in with it as I have banned anonymous comments for a while, because of a bad experience with a bigot on another thread.

Gordo said...

"I was watching Scots at War on SKY the other night,quite a few black faces in the Scottish regiments fighting in Afghanistan..

just sayin!

Tuesday, August 10, 2011"

They are mercenaries recruited in the Caribbean, they are not Scottish, Scottish people are White. But hey, all our soldiers are mercenaries now, fighting I$raels wars.