David Cameron led tributes to the armed forces who "made our country great" at a ceremony to mark the transfer of repatriations of fallen troops to a new RAF base.The Prime Minister said "we cannot thank them enough" for their efforts and the sacrifices they make.
That may be true. I have nothing but admiration for the professionalism of our armed forces, however misguided their actions are, at times. But then, that is down to their commanding officers and the politicians.
I often wonder though if your average soldier marching through Afghanistan ever considers, exactly, why he is there? When you go onto armed forces message boards, there is plenty of bitching about their role, so why then does someone join up? I don't know, because I have never been in the military although of course my forebears have fought in World wars. At one time in my earlier years before I had the possibility of exploring what actually is going on in the world, I might have gone 100% for the king and country shite.
Should we be in foreign countries now that we have 'discovered' the rest of the world and everyone in these countries like India, Pakistan and Australia, actually know who and where they are. Well apart from the Australians, of course. I personally believe that our armed forces should be deployed to defend Britain, not sent to Afghanistan to build gas piplines. Don't believe me? Just Google, Afghanistan, oil and gas and you'll be on the road to discovering the truth!
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"David Cameron led tributes to the armed forces " on the day that 2,000 of them got the sack.
I've spoken with a number of serving and vet personel and most of them claim not to be bothered about the reason for being there, they just want to get on with "the job".
DL,
Growing up I wanted to be in the armed forces. Proud of my history, clan etc I thought that was where I was going to go but then at around 19 I realised I didn't want to be a controlled, mindless automaton, trained to kill, kill, leave the forces, become incredibly mentally fucked up thanks to flashbacks and realisation of all the lives I've took and of course join civy street and dumped within Shitsville with the rest of society, just more screwed up with no aftercare program from the government who were responsible for my getting fucked up in the first place.
Reality? Yup.
Now, at 40, I have zero respect for the armed forces. Why? Simply because they do and don't ask questions. In fact you'll see that the elites follow exactly the same pattern. Good brothers in freemasonry do just that too. All the wannabe junior psychopaths do exactly the same to please the senior psychopaths they do their best to emulate.
How would you feel if I burst into your house, beat you up, raped and shot your wife only for you to find out that the police weren't going to pursue the case as the assailant was working for the government, following orders? Well this is what our armed forces do. They go into foreign lands and kill the locals all for the bankers. Yup and what follows is DEM(ON)OCRACY, massive debt, immoral society, enforced global culture with the demolition of their own indigenous, mass immigration, total information control of that society and a lockdown on liberty.
Maybe people should face facts. Every time they go into the bank to put money in, or allow any of their money to go into the bank, the banks gamble with it and make more from it (as well as creating it from thin air) which they use to instigate more wars around the world where people die and murder others in order for the wanker bankers to get incredibly wealthy. Yup, people's taxes fund wars. Everyone within the UK is responsible for all the wars and horrific situations that are going on in the world. And so to are the ones who avoid paying tax, because unless they live in the countryside, eat and grow all their own food, make their own clothes, books, leisure interests and avoid society 100%, they too fund the wars through the goods they buy, from the taxes that are paid on it.
Our armed forces are what they always have been - mercenaries who go into foreign lands to kill others. Long gone are the defenders of our nation. Ask yourself the last battle fought on British soil? You'll find it was over 250 years ago, won by the country that's been smashing the world to pieces for centuries - Culloden.
The British army are a disgrace to liberty and freedom. They are the private enforcers of the elites and bankers and will continue to be so until people wake up and smell the fucking coffee! What these muppets who join up don't realise is they're making their future generations' lives hell, by their actions, not forgetting the offspring of the peoples they murder and whose lands they destroy. But, again, they were only following ord.........
Harbinger
harbs said..
"Ask yourself the last battle fought on British soil? You'll find it was over 250 years ago"
Well I was in the Forces and served in the Falklands. Those folk wanted us there and thanked us all the time so you're wrong. Oh and my relatives manned anti a/c guns in WW2. Shooting at bombers from Germany flying over Glasgow and trying to kill us.
Banned, that's the problem, the 'job' is not what it should be about, but I suppose they are trained to follow orders without questioning them, so that will always happen.
Harbingers, I agree. IMO, the army should only be for defensive purposes not for the purpose of controlling other peoples' lands against their will.
Of course we are controlled by the Zionist bankers, but what alternative is there in the present system. we can't all be self sufficient, so do we just hope to go through our short life having as good a time as possible. I, as you know don't have any kids, so my outlook on the future is a little different than yours. There is no doubt however that we are beginning to see the start of the end game as far as the NWO control is concerned. The nigger in the woodpile, (are you still allowed to say that [!]), is of course China. We don't know how they are going to interact with our Jewish friends. It will be interesting.
Shuggers, I sense that you are in the same position that I was in about 2 years ago. Forgive me if that is a wrong assumption. You are beginning to question what is going on around you. I too, was sometimes shocked by what Harbinger was saying but he is much further along the road than we are. Listen to what he says and investigate further on the net before it is shut down.
I have no doubt that the people of the Falklands wanted us there and what we did at the time made me very proud to be British, it was from a military point of view, a magnificent effort. But you have to ask yourself, why are the Falklands British and probably more importantly, why?
What right do we have, or did we have to go into other peoples' countries and subjugate them? Would we have stood for it in Scotland, if instead of being sold down the river by our nobility, we had been invaded and conquered by England? I don't think so, but from that point onwards we did that to the people of other countries. Why? Did the common soldier dying in foreign fields benefit from the trade and wealth that flowed to Britain from the conquered lands? I don't think so. Did the people of Britain benefit? Apart from the few industrialists and the ruling class, again the answer is no. You might say that we have a middle class now thanks to the Empire, but look at Germany. Smashed to pieces in 2 World wars, robbed by the Jews after the first one, no empire to speak about and they have a higher standard of living than we have. So where did our wealth go? Seek the answer to that and you're beginning to get the knowledge.
DL. Harbs seems to think all the Forces are muppets who follow orders without thinking and then go mental when they return home. This might be true for a tiny percentage but in my experience most folk settle back into civvy street a better person. Many leave the Forces on ideological grounds. And I've met many more muppets in civvy street than I ever met in the Forces.
Like it or not the Fallands are British and hundreds of British and Argentine soldiers died in the battle over British territory. And our troops did die in the blitz protecting us from german bombers.
"Like it or not the Falklands are British" - just because something is a particular way doesn't make it right! Scotland is still a part of that abomination that is the United Kingdom after all!
shuggie,
(In reply to first reply)
Shooting aeroplanes is not a battle being fought on home soil. A battle I'm talking about is having it with an opposing side, on the ground, mano-mano.
The Falklands war was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING whatsoever to do with helping the (what they believe they are) British people on the soil but securing the Oil/resources around it not forgetting a strategic base for what should be a possible invasion of South America in the future. Do you think the UK is going to spend millions, getting into a very possible massive war protecting some 3,000 people? If you do you're madder than a hatter! And if you think that the Falklands is British when it comes to fighting on British soil then we can look at most battles fought in Africa, instead of going all the way back to Culloden, even though Culloden is correct, being the last BATTLE fought on British soil.
(In reply to second reply)
"Harbs seems to think all the Forces are muppets who follow orders without thinking and then go mental when they return home."
I'm correct. Do you (and all armed forces) not follow orders without question? Does the army not have court marshalls for disobeying superiors? How many of the armed forces faced court marshall instead of launching an illegal attack on Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya?
If soldiers do not have mental problems, knowing they've illegally invaded and murdered defenders of foreign lands, for let's not beat around the bush, they knew when they set foot on foreign soil they would kill and that's a pre-emptive strike (murder), then they are mindless automatons, constructed killing machines and devoid of all compassion. Defending one's land, family and loved ones is the polar opposite to invading another and making widows and orphans of fathers, mothers and children.
I am more than capable of defending myself with a weapon and physically and would put that to use defending myself and loved ones were my land attacked. I don't need an army to do it for me and most certainly disagree with any, especially after their track record. The Scottish regiments are a far throw to what they initially were defending their lands against English invasion. They are mercenaries who kill foreigners and steal their land today.
I shock when I write because it makes people think. I may instill fear but only do so because I tell the truth. Like it or dislike it - your prerogative.
And as for the Flakland Islanders being British, they're not. They're deluded fools who don't know that they're Falkland Islanders.
Harbinger
Shuggie - Our troops might have thought they were fighting for freedom and democracy against Germany in WW2 but they were completely deluded in thinking that.
Britain did not fight WW2 for freedom and democracy they fought to remain the top Empire in the world which they lost with the rise of the US and Soviet Union.
Germany was NO different to Britain only wanting their own empire - Hitler admired the Britsh Empire and did not want to fight Britain. It was Britain that invented the concentration camps in the Boer War.
Every war Britain was involved in since WW2 was about STOPPING people in the colonies getting THEIR freedom and democracy and keeping other peoples land and resources.
The rest of the world see Britain in a different light to the dishonest and hipocritical way people here like to portray this country.
There's a lot of truth in what harbingers said. Of course we are all conditioned to praise the military without thought, and those who question them are shamed.
The lads who join are frequently great guys (I know quite a few from the local gym), often there because there are no other jobs. The employer of last resort. Their leaders are crap though, bowing to politicians, and the politicians themselves are just pathetic wankers.
Of course we should stop having anything to do with running the world. We clearly can't run ourselves never mind anything else. This will involve a reduction in the size of the armed forces.
But to chose to announce that they are what made Britain Great (he does understand, doesn't he, that Great Britain is just a translation of Grand Bretagne = Big Brittany and has nothing to do with greatness in the English sense?) on the day when he was sacking 2000 of them... FFS, I thought the prat was a PR man.
I wish we could be rid of him.
Harbs..
Our troops have done plenty of man to man fighting and would never flinch from such a fight. We cleared Goat Ridge and Mount Harriet with bayonets. And are fighting hand to hand in Helmand.
Oil exploration started in the Falklands 20 years after the liberation and there's nothing been found yet. We didn't have a scoobie about oil exploration in such deep water and had no idea oil would actually be there.
It's court martial not marshall. And yes many troops have faced court martial.
A doctor from Leuchars faced court martial for refusing to serve in Iraq.
The Falklands are British as the folks down there kept telling me and as recognised by the United nations.
Billy..
I think Britain is better than Germany. There were no gas chambers in Britain.
Britain has stepped in to help Sierra Leone, Falklands, Korea and Kosovo in recent times.
shuggie - Good on ye ! Scottish , British and proud !
DL is losing it here , urged on by this loonie Harbinger .
Those who believe Alec Salmond will save we Scots from the evil Jewish-Masonic Conspiracy are to be pitied in their ahistorical ignorance and love of conspiracy theories .
God Bless The Queen of Scotland . God Save The Queen .
Shuggie,
I really couldn't careless about Goat Ridge or Mount Harriet for the simple reason that Britain has and had no right in taking that land whatsoever in the first place. It's imperialism and nothing more.
Falkland Islanders are not British. They're just deluded morons, brainwashed into believing they are. They are Falkland Islanders and I really couldn't give a shit what the UN say because it's nothing but a fascist organisation, there to cause woe on the world and its people. You'll realise that one day.
Sadly Shuggie, you're deluded as well. I don't mean to insult you but really, you haven't a clue what's going on.
Your argument is relative.
It's like the argument that comes across from the homosexual who doesn't believe what they do is abhorrent, abnormal, immoral and totally opposing nature.
It's like the argument that comes across from paedophiles who don't see anything wrong in molesting children, something that the UN and EUHRC will pass as perfectly legal in under 20 years (mark my words on that).
Your argument is relative because you, as a member of the armed forces, believe that what you do is right for the simple reason that you don't want to believe that what you do is wrong. You can't accept the fact that you're nothing but murderers with the backing of the government and the law and that's the only difference between you and any other murderer. You're legally allowed to do it, it's sanctioned by the government who work for the bankers and elites and you, unlike other murderers, don't get put into prison for it, that is unless there's a new agenda to get friendly with the natives that you've just decimated to the man.
Armed forces were created for one thing and one thing only - TO KILL, MURDER, OPPRESS, SUBJUGATE and take FOREIGN LANDS for the elites.
You are a cog in the machine that causes untold woe around this world.
The really sad thing is that you'll disagree with every word I write because you truly do believe that you and the other armed forces do good. You don't and that's the problem. You're there for one reason - to kill.
And worse still Shuggie, it is fact THAT EVERY ARMY is eventually used to oppress their own people in their own lands. Do a check on history and you'll find this to be true.
You are just a private in a mercenary force that is bought and paid for by the bankers. You don't do what the people want you to, but instead the 600+ wankers in government who ironically are there to represent the people and most certainly do not do that in the slightest.
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These politicians are groomed to become who they are by the banking elites in order to install Fabian Socialist policy. What are most politician's professions? Banking and law! And if you care to do some research into both, especially if you've ever heard of the freeman movement, then you'll see that both industries work hand in had together.
Every war that has been fought by Britain has been to plunder and steal other land's resources. What you don't realise is that you're an expendable tool that the elites don't give a flying fuck about! You are there to do their bidding, to live a miserable life but make damn sure that the psychopaths who control you, have a blissful existence. And while you suffer and the rest of the people, our elites don't because they are conditioned to see you as nothing but shit, there to do nothing else but serve them, make them money, protect them and give them a wondrous existence.
And here's the laughable thing - fuckwits like the Young Oligarch say the most ridiculous things (Scottish , British and proud!) which if the jellyhead had a clue about, would realise that any true Scotsman would never and I MEAN never see themselves as British. Why? The English (elites) have oppressed the Celtic peoples for hundreds of years and will continue to. More so, the word British means nothing for any Tom, Dick or Harriet can come to the UK stay for a couple of years and become one, making indigenous peoples and their cultures worthless in this land. British citizenship is worth less than a toy in a cornflakes packet!
And the moron goes on to attack those who believe in conspiracy theories and yet is ignorant to the fact that:
1. The conspirators who have been plotting against humanity for centuries, in fact thousands of years invented the word conspiracy theory in order to ridicule anyone who dare come close to the truth
2. Our existence has been all about conspiracy for conspiracy is merely the plotting of two or more people in private towards the overall detriment of our existence. What in the hell does he think secret cabinet meetings and Chatham house rules are all about?
Understand you are controlled, more so than others as a member of the armed forces who pledged their allegiance to serving the Queen.
And lastly, as for Sierra Leonne, Falklands Kor...etc etc we had no right being there in the first place.
Harbinger.
DL the first part of my reply above is in your spam folder I think.
Harbinger
To follow up what Tris has said,
The banking elites create all depressions and problems in society. They create and destroy jobs and when there is mass unemployment then it's easy picking grounds for them to recruit more bodies to be blown to bits in foreign wars. Add to that the conditioning of the youth through constant armed warfare video games and we create generations of gungho morons happy to adorn a rifle and kill johnny foreigner!
Money is the problem and more importantly those who control it. They control our lives through it, create the supreficial and materialistic lifestyle that props them up and makes them incredibly wealthy and destroys cultures all over the world.
Politicians, Judiciary, Bankers, corporation owners and the elites should be put up against the wall and shot. Even better feed the bastards alive to animals, reminiscent of Roman arenas. They're happy sending our people off to be slaughtered for their causes, it's high time we did the same back and removed these cunts once and for all from the demolition they do and have been to our lives and overall well being.
Harbinger.
Harbs..
In your simplified view of the world the German swastika would be flying over town halls from Oslo to Paris. A statue of Gen Galtieri would stand on the sea front at Port Stanley with the former British residents either dead or in camps in Argentina and Saddam would control the middle east oil fields including Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.
TYO..
I want independence for Scotland but cheers anyway ;)
Shuggers, all that you say about WW2 is correct as far as it goes. But, the question surely is why we got into that position? Why should the Flaklands be British? Why should Gibraltar be British? Why should Ceuta be Spanish? These are the interesting questions.
Harbingers, you have a point.
Billy, you're dead right. this 'King and country' shite gives me the boak. Britain and England in particular is hated all around the World. we used to be feared before we became a joke. we even handed back Honk Kong, when the Chinese didn't expect us to do it!
Tris, the phrase donkeys leading lions comes to mind.
Shuggers, considering that oil was discovered here in the late 60s, I'm sure they knew there would be oil there. I don't doubt that people join up for the right reasons, even sometimes because they can't do anything else, but there is a huge difference doing that in a time of war when we are at risk of invasion and invading other peoples' countries.
Oli, I was wondering when the Wishae true blues would weigh in
Harbingers, yes got it. you are perfectly correct that money is at the root of all evil. eventually medicine will be able to keep someone alive indefinitely, but do you for one minute think that it will be used for the good of the 'common' man. No way. The Politicians and the Elite Establishment will use it first. Can you imagine Mrs Bloggs of Acacia Avenue being kept alive before Prince Charles. No chance!
If hitler was a bad madman, How come he let my father and the rest of the army evacuate Dunkirk when he could have annihilated all of them
IF you like a different slant on history, not the saxe coburg variety, google alan wilson and baram blacket, twas an eye opener for me!
Robbo, That looks interesting but when I go onto the suggested site, I get some shite about Suburu cars!
Robbo - your father evacuated at Dunkirk due - not to your odd view of Hitler - but due to the efforts of the 51st Highland Division (my father was 2nd Lieut. Seaforth Highlander at St Valery en Caux) along with what was left of the French 'army' to hold the Germans back while Dunkirk went ahead. He and thousands of others were made to surrender and spent the rest of the war, some five awful years, in POW camps. Don't thank Hitler - thank my Dad and the thousands of other fechting troops.
There are many books published on this subject with many pointing out the abysmal military decision-making still languishing in the non-mechanised era pre-WW1 that totally under-estimated the speed and capability of the WW2 German Army leading to the defeat of UK forces at Dunkirk turned into a propaganda spun 'success' by Churchill who had warned the old military duffers about their misguided strategies.
DL..
"Shuggers you're missing the point. Saddam has no right to be in Kuwait, Hitler's armies should have been in Germany"
LOL
Shuggers, there's me making a joke again, without even knowing it!
dark lochnagar, alan wilson and baram blacket are on you tube, idont know whether alan wilson is dead or not he must be bloody old, keep searchingyou,ll find stuff, he says things like anglo saxons werent very prominent, just a load of bullshit to make german kings popular
clarinda, what about aerial attack?
Anonymous, I found it OK, but fucking Suburu seem to have taken over the website when I click on it. I'll keep trying though.
Robbo, not that I was here, but I think the RAF held off the Luffwaffe.
With the greatest respect for Clarinda's father captured at St Valery , the 51st Highland Division wasn't sacrificed in a rearguard action to save the BEF . They weren't even part of the BEF , but of the French Third Army , posted to defend the Maginot Line . They were retreating to Le Havre to be picked up by the Royal Navy . One of their 3 brigades made it and was taken back to Blighty . The rest were unfortunately surrounded by the enemy at St Valery , where the Navy couldn't get to them , and had to surrender .
C'est la guerre .
I may be a fuckwit , Harbinger , but you're a Nazi .
The Scottish soldiers who ground you and your kind into the dust and ended up on Luneburg Heath saw themselves as British and were proud .
We don't gas Jews in Scotland , but that's no thanks to bitter ethno-nationalists like yourself .
You are as much of a true Scot as the Nazi Sein Feinners flaunting their revolting politics at Parkheid and around central Scotland .
Thankfully , you and people like you will only come to power once you have murdered all the people like me and terrorised the remainder into submission .
That ain't going to happen .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9BFpDHroME there you are dark lochnagar alan wilso baram blackett
DL. Sorry to be rude laughing but you seem to be in a parallel universe. Hoping things aren't the way they are and if they weren't the way they were then it would be alright. Like harbs you blame everything on the jews and the banks. You've never lifted a finger to fight for your country and enjoy the benefits of previous generations who suffered. If you and harbs had your way we'd be living under tyranny and you two would be swinging by your bollocks for the comments that you make on this blog. But I'm happy to have risked my life for you guys despite the fact that you think I'm a stupid muppet because I want our country to be free.
Young Oligarch,
You really haven't got a fucking clue about anything do you? Do you live at the bottom of that pint? I should imagine so because your utterly oblivious to reality.
Firstly I'm no Nazi, but the Royals were, the same Royals and banking elites who took us into both wars - do some research, outwith the MSM indoctrinated bullshit they call HIS-STORY.
Secondly, neither did the Germans either. The Gas Chambers in Auschwitz were built after the war to bolster holocaustianity, the religion of the WW2. Do some research into that why don't you? If they were gassing people in Auschwitz, with deadly cyanide Zyklon B, they'd need extractor chimneys to throw it out into the air above - NOT HAVE FUCKING GAS CHAMBERS WITH NON SEALED DOORS THAT OPEN INWARDS AND FUCKING GLASS WINDOWS YOU PRAWN!!!!
The IRA had the balls to fight against the continuing English oppression of the Irish peoples (ironically the peoples whom the Scots come from if you didn't know that) who had already been oppressing the Scots, obliterating our culture and hanging anyone who spoke Gaelic or wore a tartan after the '45 uprisings. And then they sent us to America and Australia to be slaves and populate the new world so they'd have more land to steal resources from and people to pull it out of the ground for them. You're fucking clueless about Scotland, the Scottish people and their culture.
"Thankfully , you and people like you will only come to power once you have murdered all the people like me and terrorised the remainder into submission"
And this sums you up to a 'T'!!!
You support the Royal Family and their stranglehold on the British peoples who are being ethnically cleansed having already lost thei indigenous cultures and now being part of the global melting pot of peoples. The Tower of Babel is being rebuilt and deadheads like you are laying the stones, clapping your hands together as our liberties are being smashed daily.
I really suggest you crawl out of that pint. You are clueless to reality. Even better, put on a pan of water on the stove and boil your fucking head. It won't do you any good, but may give some dog a nice plate of nonsense soup to lap up.
Now go away, educate yourself and realise that everything you write about what you think you know proves how little you know of anything at all whatsoever.
The difference between me and you is my opinion is formed and my knowledge acquired through laborious research, not from the pages of the MSM, TV/Hollywood/Radio or some indoctrinating rubbish in some history book, you get it from. Your opinion is that of the status quo, the lemmings, the sheeple who simply bleat away at their masters who will kill them for their meat and wool.
Fool.
Harbinger.
shuggie,
You're another one.
You're 100% oblivious to the simple fact that you, while in the army were merely the battering ram of the elites and the bankers. You were a puppet, an expendable one who has unknowingly helped create the hellish dystopia that all will be forced to live under.
And like the Young Oligarch, you are ignorant to think that DL and I are oppressors of any liberty whatsoever, when we are in fact exactly the opposite.
The Zionists play a huge part in the New World Order. Why not do what DL says and do some research on the internet before it's censored fully? And this is coming.
And lastly who the fuck do you think you are saying you fought for us guys you fucking arsehole? Did I ask you to fight in the Falklands? Did I fuck. The Argentinians, like the Afghans, like the Iraqis, like the Libyans, soon to be Syrians, Lebanese and finally Iranians posed/pose us no threat whatsoever, but you, conditioned into being a robot who says "yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir" have been molded into the ignorance on reality you currently acquire.
You never fought for my freedom you fool.
Our ancestors never fought for my freedom either, well, those in my clan against the English at Culloden and before against the English did, but WW1 & WW2 were all carefully constructed wars in order to turn the UK into the shithole it is today. The history you know of WW1 and 2 is pants to say the least, but hey, let's not upset that ignorant little bubble you live in eh?
Like I said before, you're deluded, because you're trying to find some way to absolve the fact that you are/were nothing but an expendable asset for the government, themselves puppets of a far higher power. You want to believe that you made a sacrifice as did others making us free, when in reality, you didn't. All you did was helped make the chains that are currently being wrapped around your future generations hands and feet. And yet you will not see this simple reality because you're thought process is warped from establishment indoctrination.
BRITISH SOLDIERS MURDERED AFGHANS AND IRAQIS WHO POSED BRITISH PEOPLE NO THREAT WHATSOEVER!
It's not up to me to judge you, but time will and if there is a God then he/she/it will to upon your passing. Were there no armed forces in the world there would be no wars. It's like a chess game - no pieces, no game of chess I'm afraid to say.
When you wake up and see reality for what it is, it isn't nice one bit. Will you I wonder? Maybe.
Harbinger
Your dad was on the Russian convoys DL? So was mine, HMS Belfast I think.
Oli, I would say that most Scots, at east the ones I know on various Facebook sites and on Twatter, would consider themselves much more Scottish than British. They may even feel they have more in common with the 'Nazi Sein Feinners' as you put it. But then you are coming from the other end of the spectrum with your rangers supporting, Protestant traditions, which I must admit I feel more offensive than the other side's, although you both have faults as far as I am concerned. You have to remember, as well, that this religious Rangers/Celtic pish is mostly a west coast of Scotland phenomenon fuelled by the scum from N. Ireland whose buses you can see coming up the A77 every Saturday and who substitute it for shooting each other in Ulster.
Harbs..
You shout a lot and use lots of threats and swear words but you're just a sad failure. You've never lifted a finger to defend your country. If Hitler had won we would be talking German. If saddam had won he would control all the oil in the middle east and could set the price of oil. Your ideas work fine as long as all the other countries agree with your ideas. But they don't so we have to send our troops to sort things out. We get cheap oil because we keep our client oil producers in power. WTF is wrong with that ? It's a shit world out there and people like you can sit on your arse doing fuck all because troops are prepared to go out and fight for cheap oil. You seem to think it's bad for our govt to try and control the oil and gas in the middle east. WTF do you think would happen if we didn't ? The chinese and russians and god forbid the french would be in charge and they would set the agenda. Why don't you grow a pair and get off your sorry arse and do something useful instead of shagging blacks and moaning like an old woman ?
Shuggers settle down, FFS.
First of all this is my blog, so at times I make comments to see what the reaction will be to stimulate conversations such as this.
Secondly, I see a huge difference in fighting for my freedom, i.e. defending Scotland or even Britain against invasion and us, invading other countries and killing the natives. What's the difference between Britain and America traipsing all over the Arab world and Hitler invading the Rhineland? If my country ever was at the risk of invasion, I would fight the same as my forebears did in battles stretching stretching back to Culloden. In fact, thinking about it, I have to say that I find it fucking offensive that you would assume anything else just because I didn't chose to join the army but instead ran my on company. What makes you cunts in the forces think you are so superior? My Grandfather died in the trenches BTW and my father's ships were sunk twice and he nearly lost his life, so don't talk pish!
Banned, he was but unfortunately I forget what ships he was on. It's always the same. You don't ask the right questions when they are alive, then it's too late when they're dead.
Harbingers, that's what discussion like this might provoke, a bit of independent thinking instead of listening to shite spouted about how great Britain is when we are hated all over the world.
Shuggers, Saddam would sill be in power as would Gaddafi, if they hadn't had tried to sell their oil in currency other than petrodollars, end of story. It's only just coming out now and I just heard the tail end of it on the news about the amount of cooperation there was between the intelligence services of Britain, America and Libya. I remember doing a blog post on the SAS training Libyan troops about 18 months ago. Look it up. Do you not find that a little curious in your black and white world?
Shuggie,
1. Expletives are words, just like any other and convey a very effective message that other words cannot.
2. You've never lifted your finger to defend your country either so stop blethering shite. And if you think you did, who from? Who was it that put the peoples of Scotland and the rest of the UK in grave danger eh? No one. There is no threat to the UK and there never will be. We are seeing the re-emergance of the British Empire.
3. Hitler never would have won WW2 because that was not the plan. And yes it was a plan. WW2 was orchestrated for many reasons and the invasion of the west was not one of them that is by the Germans. However what it was about was the effective creation of a bogeyman, in order to prop up the illegal state of Israel and condone the crimes of Israeli Zionists today. WW2 was the eventual infiltration of communism (socialism) into all aspects of western society - the creation of the European soviet.
4. The war against Saddam in 91 was nothing at all do with what we were told. Do you know that Kuwaut was horizontally drilling into Iraqi oil wells? Bet you didn't know that? Do you also know that the USA backed Saddam and said attack Kuwait only for them to double back on their promise? Why do you think they killed him? They executed Saddam because he was going to spil the beans on corrupt bankers and political elites. Gulf War 2 was because Saddam was going to set the cost of oil not in dollars but in another currency. This would have pissed off the oil barons. There is still oil. It goes up and up and people pay more because they'r mugs - Oil companies continue to make their massive percentage in profit to the detriment of the people. If it's Iraqi oil it's Iraqi oil and not ours, therefore their choice to how much they sell it for. And if they sell it too high the west won't buy. They lose out and have to lower the price. We need to break our dependency on oil. Read Collapse by Michael Ruppert.
5. You think like an Imperialist, thinking it's ok to bully other countries into submission. Who the fuck do our elites and people like you think they are? I don't need oil quite frankly. In fact my dependency on material goods is dropping faster than a meteor through the stratosphere. oil, like money has created a superficial materialistic society where reality is lost and certain individuals get hellishly wealthy off of the backs of others.
6. And yes I do think it's disgusting that our country, thinks it has a right to invade other lands for oil. Your warped mentality proves what an ignorant cunt you are.
7. And finally, educate yourself will you? The Russians and the Chinese do not pose a threat to us as we're controlling the game, that is the elites, who happen to be predominantly of indigenous British stock. And if the Russians charged in they'd get pay back for the Crimea that we started. If the Chinese waged in they'd get payback for the Opium wars. And if the French waged in, well, it would be one big happy family again, booting out the Germanic peoples in order to return the UK back to a Gaelic stronghold once more.
8. Oh how ignorant you are, proven by your ignorant rhetoric you think is reality, when it's nothing but make believe. And whom I shag is my prerogative and no one's to dictate otherwise.
Harbinger.
DL,
Quite.
I always try to bring out debate and if it means scraping at the nerve or cutting right through it, so be it.
Hopefully we may make a little spark ignite within in order for some light to be shed on the darkness that floods their thought.
Harbinger
DL . I respect your opinions . You seem to be a normal , educated , middle-aged Scotsman , with whom I would like to have a drink .
Your views about the Jews , I cannot subscribe to . But I support your right to express them , though many wouldn't .
Harbinger is barking mad .
I consider it a mark of honour that he considers me a "fuckwit".
I'll print it off and stick it on the wall next to my MA in History .
What a great scholar he is !
"I'll print it off and stick it on the wall next to my MA in History ."
And you still don't get it and I doubt ever will.
Monkey see, monkey do....
The worse thing that will happen to you in life is realising that everything I've written is 100% fact and realising that the time to have done something about stopping the hell I predict has already passed you by a long time ago.
Trapped inside the box at the bottom of a pint glass.
Harbinger
Harbingers, if we get one or two to at least do some research, then it's all worthwhile!
Oli, a very deep thinker, our Harbinger. You would do well to at least consider what he is saying, without dismissing it out of hand. I do believe that we are being controlled by an elite, call it the Establishment or whatever and the Queen and country shite is only a sign of how stupid people can be. I love my country, Scotland and secondly Britain and would die to defend it if a genuine threat came about, but not Saddam or Gaddafi, FFS!
DL "...how great Britain is when we are hated all over the world" I encounter a large number of overseas visitors even in my small provincial city but very rarely do they seem to hate us though perhaps, as visitors, they are self-selecting Britaniaphiles.
However, I recall a particularly moving post on another blog and another subject entirely. The poster was a medic during the Balkan wars and he wrote of caring for a wounded teenage boy who said (to the effect of) "I was taught in school about Britains imperialism but you gave freedom to your colonies in Australia, New Zealand and Canada but when the Hitler War happened (good phrase) they sent their soldiers to help you anyway. I did not believe my teachers after I leared that".
The boys grasp on the difference between colonies and Dominions might be slight but there was no hatred there.
That's me crawled into my pint , Harbinger .
You're still a loonie ! (And a Nazi)!
Cheers !
"You're still a loonie ! (And a Nazi)!"
You're unable to comprehend fact. And let me see an MA in history. Sadly do you know what that means? It means you're good at remembering what other people tell you to remember. It doesn't involve any critical thought whatsoever because all you did to pass your exams was reiterate what you'd been taught by your teachers.
You are unable to see reality because you live inside a box, created for you by your masters who wish to keep the truth hidden from you.
Harbinger
That's right , Harbinger . No critical thought or analysis is required in the academic study of History . (I just stuck down a big list of random dates I'd learned and that was me).
The only true historical analysis comes from Harbinger the great thinker and seer who has perspicatiously discerned that we are kept down by a collosal plot involving Zionists , Freemasons and Unionists . We were on the wrong side in every war we ever fought and our Scottish soldiers are war criminals . Both world wars were started and their outcomes pre-ordained by this same Jewish-Masonic-British elite , headed by the Royal Family .
Those who can't see these self-evident truths are traitors , profiteers and (possibly) kulaks .
Or fuckwits .
Well done , Harbinger . Through your diligent study , carefully avoiding such untrustworthy sources as mere "books", you have exposed the central truths of a massive global conspiracy which has manipulated all recorded history to keep down Gaelic-speaking Scots and our IRA cousins .
Soon a grateful world will hail you as its saviour .
I'm a far greater thinker than you could ever hope to be TYO.
And yes, Zionists are very much involved in the NWO and overwhelmingly Freemasonry is also heavily in there if not running the show. And I don't know if it's headed by the Royals, but they're also greatly responsible in the who affair.
And you are correct. You are a fuckwit, because you're one of the many indoctrinated and brainwashed MSM fed automatons.
There are many books that are worthy of reading, especially those written by the elites themselves who set out the path of our future, they have planned. Then of course there are many which are nothing but complete and utter falsehoods, promoting nothing but an agenda.
There's really no point in any discourse with you because you prove you inability to grasp reality for your stance on many things, especially being a Tory and of course a Royalist and proud Brit.
Boy, how your ancestors would turn in their graves knowing their descendants happily allowed their lands under the rule of the English monarchy, a monarchy that cares nought for the people nor ever has. However, it obviously makes you feel proud that you think it's your duty to serve a family of freeloaders, who live in luxury while the rest of society scrapes by just to make a living, paying them money for that privilege.
And no, there will be no world hailing me as its saviour because society isn't intelligent enough to break away from the system that keeps them in slavery. The future of this planet is one of total control, run by corporations (as predictively programmed by Hollywood and many authors) who will have a total information network, knowing everyone's move and thought. This will be uptopia for the elites and a hellish dystopia for everyone else, for the simple reason that people will live there lives, no differently to those in the film Gataca, bred for certain purposes with no chance of breaking free from the control mechanism in place.
And you can't see this because you, do not follow the simple words of Tsun Tsu, in that you do not know your enemy but instead embrace it with open arms. Your future, well that of your descendants will be hell TYO, but you won't care because you'll be that brainwashed, listening and accepting the constant doublespeak thrown at you that you won't see what's wrong with society, instead, like those in Orwell's 1984, shouting at a TV screen at the next Goldstein, the next enemy of the state you are all told to hate.
You live inside a box. Your mind is closed.
Harbinger
"I'm a far greater thinker than you could ever hope to be TYO."
And modest , too .
Hahahahaha !
Banned, aha! The exception that proves the rule!
Oli, I just don't know how Harbingers knew you were an Alchy!
Harbingers, how did Oli know you and I were Nazis?
OLI, I think we, all of us in Scotland, have opinions to put forward. I don't agree with all yours as I expect you don't agree with mine and Harbingers. But that is what living history is all about and you a s a history teacher should surely be able to grasp that!
Harbingers, I wish I could disagree with you sometimes.
Dumfries, I started off there thinking you ere taking the pish. But I don't think you were. Were you? If so, you are far too subtle for me, a simple Ayrshire plowman!
Oli, Harbinger is not at all modest, but that doesn't make him wrong!
Put your proposals for a new History curriculum in while the "Curriculum For Excrement" "consultation" is still going on , Harbinger .
That way , in 20 years time , our un-indoctrinated youth will have done away with the Jews , Masons , Royal Family , Unionists , Protestants and all the other assorted "pricks" and "fuckwits" .
Heil Harbinger !
By the way , less of the herbal cigarettes (" hey , you shitting me , man ") ya drugged up , Nazi prick .
Try some decent heavy beer like a normal Scotsman . The only draw-back is that the sky stays blue , instead of alternating between green and purple .
PS. Say "hello" to the lassie in the chemist for me when you go to get your methadone the morn .
"That way , in 20 years time , our un-indoctrinated youth will have done away with the Jews , Masons , Royal Family , Unionists , Protestants and all the other assorted "pricks" and "fuckwits" ."
LMAO!!!
You really haven't got a clue do you? I suggest you do lots of reading, for there will be only one nation in this world - Israhell and all the others will merely be regions of the global government, all one race, all one people, all one culture, all one language, no difference, just grey, mindless, automatons who will worship their masters as gods amongst men. The dome of the rock will be knocked down and the Temple of Solomon rebuilt for the Tower of Babel already has (EU Parliament) and it's merely a case of furthering the agenda....
And for your information I don't take any drugs you poor deluded fool, nor smoke. I've also run a few pubs so don't talk to me about beer.
You're completely devoid of reality, living in your mental prison, with not one critical thought in your whole body. And as I said above, your ancestors would be turning in their grave to know their descendants are tory, royalist brown noses.
Who fought and died for their wee bit hill and glen....
You shame them.
Harbinger
My humble apologies , O Omniscient One .
How could I have doubted the self-evident truths which you elucidate ? Like the Pythia your prophesy cannot be properly interpreted by mere mortal men .
So . The bird in the chemist's . Was it the one with the big tits ? And did she make you eat a cream cracker this time ?
"do some research, outwith the MSM indoctrinated bullshit they call HIS-STORY."
"I suggest you do lots of reading"
Right . So , every history book ever written is a pack of lies ? But , stop me if I'm getting this wrong , I've got to read a lot of stuff to "educate" myself towards the revealed truth of Harbinger ?
Where will I find this Gospel According To Harbinger ?
Will it be in a special place of reverence in Waterstone's ? In a gold-lined vault in the basement of the shop , perhaps ?
It would be a pity if it were not treated with due reverence .
"Who fought and died for their wee bit hill and glen...."
I recognise that song . It's a sixties dirge about the Battle of Bannockburn .
Who were the brave Scots on that field fighting for ?
Not Harbinger The Seer .
It was King Robert I - a forebear of Her current Majesty .
Were they " tory, royalist brown noses" as well , or are your arguments the incoherent ramblings of a (possibly drugged) loonie ?
No, DL, I wasn`t taking the pish, never do, deadly serious.. This battle of words between The Young Oligarch, and Anonymous/Harbinger, is typical of the divisions in society, which can be brought about by the current state of the world, the Bush/Clinton bitches cries of FOR or AGAINST..
anyway, on a lighter note, hope you are having a good time..
Why did it take three replies to reply to my one TYO?
If you make it outside of the box you call life, then you'll see that books only make it on the shelves if they promote the right agenda. I am of course speaking about the big sellers, promoted that is by the MSM to sell well - indoctrination, telling society what to read and watch as they do with Hollywood/TV. Some books do make it through the net, that is with private publishers, sympathetic to the truth movement, something you're oblivious to.
Any book that I would care to write would not make it as a promoted book by the MSM for I would ridicule it and its owners. People are afraid of the truth and those in control are stopping the truth from getting out for fear of being lynched by a very angry public, who have realised they've been played for thousands of years. May I remind you of Arthur Schopenhauer?
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
And of course John 8:32
"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
Robert the Bruce was a patsy of the Elite who duped the Scottish people into servitude by defeating the English King Edward II. All elites are part of the same system. The only true fighter for the Scottish people was Wallace and those before him.
And again I don't ramble nor take any form of drug, apart from the odd pint here and there.
You are deluded, because you are ignorant of reality. You are living a script. You are part of one big play and completely oblivious to the truth of what's going on.
You debating with me about the truth and reality is on a par with a 4 year old speaking to a philosopher about metaphysics. You are simply unaware of how little you know about just what's really going on. It makes you nothing more than an automaton I'm afraid to say.
Harbinger
You're right , doonhamer . Sorry to have bored you .
Harbinger's views seem utterly outlandish to me . His vituperative style seems much worse .
That's what made me flash .
But you're right . I should just have left it alone .
Last reply , Harbinger , before we agree to disagree .
"Why did it take three replies to reply to my one TYO?"
Your lengthy posts make you seem , to some , more of a crank .
I divided my post into 3 to avoid this error . They were all written at the same time .
May you find peace .
Like I said the truth shall set you free and truth is something you're oblivious to as I said.
Acceptance of reality is only gained through understanding and knowledge of it. Until you do you'll never have peace. You think you do, but it's a false one at best.
Harbinger
former doomhammer,
"This battle of words between The Young Oligarch, and Anonymous/Harbinger, is typical of the divisions in society, which can be brought about by the current state of the world, the Bush/Clinton bitches cries of FOR or AGAINST.."
I know it may sound arrogant to some saying this, but what else is one to do when the reality is such that the NWO are close to endgame and a brutal existence of complete slavery is awaiting our future generations, because society protected its own slavers?
I am most certainly not partaking in the Hegelian dialectic. I speak what I do because it's the truth.
You know that and others reading (with open minds capable of critical thinking) know that too. It's easy for others to attack what I write simply because of their institutionalized thinking. Far too many are inside looking out instead of those in the know, outside looking in.
Bush used the phrase "you're either with us or against us", classic Freemasonic terminology there for all to see. I don't play that game. I mention what is reality and it's up to people to take it on board, divulge it and do their own research and not just take my word for it. This is not a game of chess between friends here. This is about the freedom of the human race, the stopping of the creation of the world melting pot of peoples and cultures, subdued under an incredibly powerful elite, who will rule with absolute power over all, while being worshipped as gods amongst men.
There are far too many people like TYO and Shuggie, who mean well, but are simply oblivious to reality because they have been conditioned into accepting authority over them by an elite who have attained that power by stealing from others over centuries, with their offspring being born into total power and at the top of the caste system of humanity, brought up to believe they are there to rule over all and all to be subservient to them, there for their every beck and call.
TYO and Shuggie's fatal flaw is they believe the MSM and moreso, they cannot accept that conspiracy is merely two or more people colluding in private to the overall detriment of the mass majority. They trust too much and are unable to accept that there are truly, evil, malicious psychopaths that want total control over everyone, because they believe they are here to rule over all.
It's disgusting.
I just wish people would wake up, but like you said, it's pointless trying to wake up the asleep.
Harbinger
@Anonymous/Harbinger : I totally agree, the blinkered individuals will keep denying the absolute danger, right up until the day they are drugged to the eyeballs, are chained to a slaveship, or treadmill, completely at the mercy of the NWO rulers, those, that is, who are allowed to live, me,personally, I would rather be dead..
If anyone wants to know what the world will look like in the future, go to Mask of Zion. Jonathan Azaziah has written a two part piece, on exactly what our future holds, unless this thing is stopped, and that wo`t happen unless every military person, either lays down their arms, or turns them on the real global criminals, and every taxpayer financing the global warmongering elite, refuses to pay taxes. There is no law which says we have to. Another way to defeat this evil, is to have F-all to do with the global banking system..
former doonhammer,
I can't fault a word of your reply. I've written many times on the NWO and what must be done by all to stop it. There's the aggressive and the non aggressive way, the former of course I write about, not that I don't believe in the latter or that it won't come about, just one doesn't tell their opponent their next move do they?
The latter part of your reply is spot on. Armies are for conquering not defending. The first armed force created was for conquest and our armed forces from day one have done just that, as we have all been told to support the bullshit of imperialism. This imperialism was fought by the people, in order to give the elites their luxurious existence. It's quite sickening really. More so that pillocks vote in tossers every year, who've no idea what it's like to be poor and then they wonder why politicians don't give a shit about them etc etc?
Stop putting money into banks and if you have any take it out.
What money you have use it to buy gold, silver, precious stones.
Stop paying taxes.
Stop voting.
Throw out the TV and the Radio.
Give up on newspapers and the rest of the MSM.
But people won't.
I speak as I do because I really couldn't give a fuck about pleasantries anymore because we're not dealing with a pleasant situation. It's either freedom or slavery and we're moving further into the latter with each passing day. I really don't care about offending people or upsetting their feelings because if that's what it takes to get out the truth and wake people up then so be it. I'd rather be hated for what I write but have been instrumental in creating a future of liberty and freedom, that loved for creating one of oppression and slavery.
There are many good books, but if people want to see the future, read some Alexander Solzhenitsyn. It's around the corner.
Harbinger
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