Tuesday, 7 September 2010

HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE HOLODOMOR GENOCIDE IN UKRAINE WHEN 14M DIED?

I never had.  It wasn't until someone mentioned it a few posts ago, that I thought it would be interesting to have a shufty at.
What I found was astonishing.  I don't want to bore those of you who don't find history fascinating, so I'll just give you some brief facts and a link.  It happened in the Ukraine in 1932-33, when Stalin's Government wanted to bring the Ukrainian people into line.  They had been forced into the USSR roughly 10 years before, but still sought some autonomy.  Basically, Stalin systematically starved the peasants of the Ukraine by grabbing all their grain supplies and executing any that were found to have even a handful.  Some estimates say up to 14 Million died.  In the same year 1933, Stalin was dumping grain on the European market to pay for armaments and to obtain foreign currency.
I knew that many people died under Stalin, but I wasn't aware that this systematic GENOCIDE happened.  Wondering why I hadn't heard of it, I remembered the Jews and of course, they have all the World's pity in the twentieth century for the Holocaust and no one else will be allowed to interfere with that.

16 comments:

McGonagall said...

Nikita Khrushchev was in charge of that - bastard.

The Young Oligarch said...

Try "The Black Book of Communism" , DL .

Socialism = totalitarianism .

Be afraid .

(But , of course , in Scotland we have to worry about the Eeevil Toriees or the "nutters" of UKIP . What would happen if these Untermenschen got their way ?).

Harbinger said...

And your journey continues as you fall down the rabbit hole.....

No doubt it was one of my posts?

I was never taught about it in school either and yet the west went to war on the side of the monster Stalin. Interesting when you do even further research to see that most of those who died were Gentiles and most of those in charge of the Red Army were, wait for it, Jews!

Yup, the holodomor is clearly forgotten about because it clearly overshadows the Jewish one in WW2. I wonder if many of the pictures of the holodomor weren't used, by Jews in their propaganda push after WW2 promoting the story that these were Jews persecuted under Hitler and not Ukranians under Stalin. The more you do research on war pictures, the more you'll find many bogus pictures and doctored images. You'll find regurgitated pictures from WW1 as well as of Russians confused as Nazis. Again, if it happened as they said it did, why on earth would yo need fake/doctored pictures to promote it? Again, far too many discrepancies and no one's allowed to discuss it because it happened and that's that!

Dark Lochnagar said...

McGonners, I think it was Stalin in 1933. I remember Nikita Khrushchev and I wasn't born until 1954!

Dark Lochnagar said...

Oli, It is my hope that centre right pro-independence party emerges, if not before independence after it. Remember the SNP has pledged to disband after independence, job done. There are quite a lot of Tories in the SNP and if only the Tories in Scotland became independent of Westminster and pushed independence for Scotland, they would do considerably better, IMO.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Harbingers, it seems more like an arsehole rather than a rabbithole. Yes, it was one of your posts as you well know. I was swithering whether to give you credit in the post, but I decided to let it go without your name as I wanted readers to look at with a fresh mind.

It was actually amazing when you look into it. I was never taught it in school either and until you mentioned it I had never heard of it. Of course the reason is that the Jews don't want it to overshadow the 'Holocaust'. The populkation of the Ukraine dropped by 53m between 1926-1939. That is FUCKING AMAZING!

Shug Niggurath said...

Yet again blame the Jews instead of the elephant in the room.

The reason Holomodor (and many other Soviet and Communist atrocities against it's own people) is kept so silent is far more to do with politically motivated education which (in the 70's and 80's at least when I suffered mine) is absolutely geared towards the idea that communism is a perfectly viable economic system as opposed to totalitarian nonsense that removes the individual and allows for such horrors to be committed for the greater good.

It's left-wing intellectuals who are the cause of the silence, and it's left-wing intellectuals who are the cause of much harm in education and other fields.

Meh.

Toni said...

DL, you should read Mao's great Famine by Francis Dikotter.

Harbinger said...

DL,

Sorry about that. It seems I'm the bogeyman then. LOL
You've forgotten the fact that those who died in the famine were gentiles which throws yet another slant on it. A quick peruse to see who was pretty much in charge of society within the communist state you'll see that it was overwhelmingly Jewish:

Have a read here

Harbinger said...

Shug niggurath said,

The reason Holomodor (and many other Soviet and Communist atrocities against it's own people) is kept so silent is far more to do with politically motivated education which (in the 70's and 80's at least when I suffered mine) is absolutely geared towards the idea that communism is a perfectly viable economic system as opposed to totalitarian nonsense that removes the individual and allows for such horrors to be committed for the greater good.

With all due respect Shug, what a complete and utter load of pants. The holodomor happened at the start of the 1930's, long before the Marxist Theorists had set to work dismantling the western education system, however the power of the Jews within the establishments, even then was great. There was no teaching or reporting of it when it happened and this continued. And from what I can remember, all through my upbringing in school and my early life, the bogeyman was the U.S.S.R. There was no need to promote anything whatsoever to do with it as it was the world's evil.

The Elephant is and always has been Judaism. You really have no leg to stand on whatsoever. Communism is a totally Jewish concept whose roots lie solely in the horrific teachings of the Babylonian Talmud. One look back through history and one will see that the leaders of Communism and the Red Army look like the guest list to a Bar Mitzvah.

banned said...

Nah, sorry, not news. Even Brian wotsisname in 1970's BBC Schools broadcasts acknowledged (pished, sozz) the great Ukranian Famine even though the communistic cunt put it down to a perversion of communism rather than the Stalinist racism/genocide that it surely was.

I visited Ukraine in the days of President Yuri Andropov, sad old cunt, but the Holodomor was buried deep under the carpet.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Shuggers, I finished in sixth year in 1972 and I went into the family business. There was certainly, that I can remember no left wing bias, but maybe I don't remember it. There certainly was a lot of Jews in charge of the USSR, at that time. I honestly think that the Zionists are the Elephant in the room and the more I look into it the more it appears so. Most of the teachers I had, had been teaching for 20 years and although I have a 'Higher' in History and Economic History, I was never told about the holodomor. Very strange.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Antonio, I'll certainly have a shufty if I get the chance, but I've a lot of reading to do.

Dark Lochnagar said...

Harbingers, you're not sorry in the least so don't give me that moaning Jewish stuff! Your contribution is always welcome as you know, but sometimes other commenters are not up to your intensity of debate. I'm going to read that more fully in the morning. Fucking Knacked!

Dark Lochnagar said...

Banned, is it just not talked about in the Ukraine, or what?

Anonymous said...

Greeting Mr,

Dark lochnagar said "Wondering why I hadn't heard of it, I remembered the Jews and of course, they have all the World's pity in the twentieth century for the Holocaust and no one else will be allowed to interfere with that."

In one swoop, Dark Locknagars's anti-semitism is revealed.

In talking about genocide, he can't help but make a dig at the holocoaust which befell the Jews. According to him, the Jews go on to much.

What length of time would be acceptable for Jews to memorialise the holocaust? Should they have stopped in the 60s,70s,80s? Or perhaps they should never have discussed the genocide of their peoples so as to not inconvenience your self -- an obese, bald man with saggy tits from Ayrshire!

Why not just have respect for all people who died?

Just some facts for your bigoted brain:

1. Almost 70% of European Jewry were killed in the holocaust.
2. The Jews were systematically murdered via ghettos, concentration and extermination camps and mobile killing squads.
3. The Jews that tried to escape to Palestine were often refused entry courtesy of the 'kind' British ruling over the area via their mandate.
4. The Jews DID NOT have "all the world's pity" as you claim -- you are such a historical illiterate. If you were actually educated you would know that even after WW2, the Jews faced more persecution. In 1948, a Muslim coalition of 5 armies attacked the Jews in Israel to 'finish off what Hitler started'. Yeah, the Jews, living in their homeland were attacked by jihadists. Further attacks against Jews happened in 1967 and 1973. Did those slip your mind ya big numpty?

Oh, and the Jews do not have universal sympathy -- in fact, the UN has attacked the Jews and Israel more than any other nation on earth.

Perhaps you should take a long hard look in the mirror and face what a despicable, obese, baldy, disgusting man you are!

Your anti-semitism, which you encourage on 'yer daft wee blog' is disgusting.

Oh, and your blog has been reported to anti-semitism watchdogs -- I doubt they will find your mocking of Jewish holocaust very funny!

Regards.

P.S. You can now get bras for me. Try one, it will stop your titties from wobbling as you practice your Nazi goosestep!